I am a muslim. I converted to Islam on October 25, 2003 - the 1st day of Ramadan that year.. I pray five times a day, I fast for a full month during Ramadan, I pay zakat, and God willing, one day soon I will go for Hajj. At lot of you said you wanted to hear about how or why I converted to Islam, and I'm going to be writing about that soon.
But I also know that intercultural marriage does not have to include religious conversion. In fact, one of my biggest concerns about a permanent relationship with M were religion. And I felt decidedly different than the converts I met. I know that I was biased.
I remember that M did have one Pakistani acquaintance who had married a white American girl. About a year into M & my relationship, when things were still in the we-can-never-be-together stage, but maybe he and I were starting to feel like we couldn't settle for "No," he contacted his friend. I guess they talked about the possibility of marrying a non-Pakistani, and the friend told his wife to contact me. I received a lovely email from her with a little description of this woman, a few tips about how to wear hijab, and a link to a website about her. The website was mostly about her conversion to Islam. In my mind, all possibility of communication with this woman shut down. That wasn't going to be me - she and I had nothing in common - how could I possibly talk to this woman?
It's my own stupidity. I was struggling with Islam at that point in my life, and I couldn't see that life for myself, so I didn't pursue what could have been a very valuable resource. I'm sure that had I contacted her, even if I had told her I wasn't a convert and didn't plan on converting, she still would have been willing to talk to me about the intercultural aspects of dating and/or marrying a Pakistani. She even had a child from a previous marriage and had already travelled to Pakistan - how interesting would THAT have been to hear about?!! And maybe if I had talked to her, it could have made my own journey to Islam quicker and less difficult.
I feel like I need to be the resource that *I* needed back before I dived headfirst into this thing. At that point, any talk about religion would have just closed avenues of dialogue for me. That doesn't mean I WON'T talk about religion here. Like I said, I'm going to be posting my conversion story soon. And if any of you have any specific concerns or questions, I'm happy to discuss anything via email. I'm no scholar, but perhaps I can point you in the right direction. There are plenty of things I'm still looking for answers to myself, though, so maybe I won't be able to answer your questions, but I can try.
I know some of you may disagree with this policy, or my motivations for it, but I really need to find a balance for this to be the place I needed six years ago and who I am now. For now, this is it.
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It's funny/not funny that the first thing the lady wrote you was that...I know what you mean. It runs contrary to my own personal relationship with God, all these details about how to dress and how to pray, but they are always the FIRST thing anyone asks if I say I married a Pakistani...or else,"do you have any children?" or, if I say he never told his parents he married me:"but if you're Muslim, it's okay"(which means I have to cite Quran for them) or "So Have a Baby And They Will Accept You." There are like Rules For Accepting Ghori Wives Should You Have One Foisted Upon You. I loved your MIL post.
Hi,
I have not commented on any of your posts till now, though I follow your blog.
I love your posts which are anecdotal in nature (as most are), telling of your perception of Pakistan, and Pakistanis in US. They may teach a lot to someone who has just embarked on a similar journey, but I like your love, enthusiasm and energy and most of all - absence of bias.
I agree that this is not the time to bring in religion to your blog. Religion can never be far from strong feelings and definite opinions. Once you write as to why you converted and what you feel after conversion, Im sure your traffic will increase, but personally, I feel the energy and spontaneity of this blog would reduce. Well, at the least, every decision and post of yours will be weighed against your present life, your choice in the matter of religion etc. And this is not to mention trolls who would love to comment on what you feel is right and wrong as a Muslim.
My request? Dont make this blog that personal, not yet. Finish your anecdotes, your wonder, your likes and dislikes and your perception of a new culture vis a vis the one you were born in. :) Id like that. And then, you can make it into a wonderful little book. You are a great writer
Im an Indian. And yes, I love to compare your insights into Pakistan with India - how similar and yet how very, very dissimilar they are.
I agree:
"My request? Dont make this blog that personal, not yet. Finish your anecdotes, your wonder, your likes and dislikes and your perception of a new culture vis a vis the one you were born in."
interesting.. your relationship with your hubby and islam is similar to mine. I converted oct 1st 2003, have known h2b for 6 years now.. only difference is i moved to canada so we didnt marry and we dont have children yet :P insha'allah.. nice to see the differences between our lives but also gives me a little twinge that you are so far with ur deen masha'allah
Just visited your blog by sheer chance..I will look forward to your conversion story.. :)
I think it's a good thing that you are not FOCUSING on religion on this site. Of course, that's just a personal preference, because I am a very non-religious person and I am turned off by ultra-religious, "you must believe everything I believe", zealots. You don't come across this way at all, and have made your site a very comfortable place for me to be. I think by not focusing on your religion, you have created a place that is of interest to many people of all different backgrounds.
That being said, I do have some questions. In one of your posts, you said that you converted after M had moved away, and that he came back immediately and proposed after he found out. So, that implies that M didn't know you were converting, and that you had not discussed this as a condition of marriage. I believe at this point, you still didn't believe that you and M ever would get married. This means that you converted for yourself, not because you wanted M to marry you. Is this the case? If M hadn't come back and proposed, where did you see your life going? I mean, at that point you hadn't been accepted by your local Muslim community (it seems), and M had moved away. Had you not married M, I imagine that your existence as a white Mulim-convert in America would have been a very isolating one. You were very brave to do what you did!
I'd like to add that dippyblogs comment holds a lot of truth to it, and my be something you want to consider before going deeper into this subject.
Well, I would like to know more about you as a Muslim. I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing that. There are ways to discuss religion without being preachy. I really liked your post on visiting the mosque! More voices like your's need to be out there.
I am a convert myself and honestly I have different versions of my story. My "in a nutshell" version, my more detailed and less conscise version, and then a few in between. I am sure it is the same with you.
I agree with Shahguftah as well. I think it is important to relate to people, especially Muslims, how off putting it is to connect with someone for the first time and the first thing they do is shove hijab down your throat...I am sure that woman had the best of intentions and all, but that isn't the best da'wah tactic if that was the point.
Anyhoo...please do discuss religion. Somehow I have a feeling that what you have to say won't be filled with cheerful soundbytes straight out of Salafi pamphlets about how great polygyny is or how we should all be wearing niqabs and gloves or how such and such sister gets on your nerves but you love her for the sake of Allah and blahdy blah. There are indeed blogs like that out there. But somehow that rhetoric just doesn't seem like you.
So what about you as a Muslim, then?
And it's up to you what you decide to talk about, because as much as we love your blog as an audience, it is for you as an author, too!
I think this is a wise decision. I find for myself that it is often difficult to be accepted by Muslim revert/convert 'gori' wives as soon as you say you did not convert. The question gets asked over and over and you have to provide a reason why you did not convert. This is one reason I enjoy reading your blog so much. I can identify with what you are writing, without REALLY serious religious implications. . .
(The same is true for those who do convert and get asked over and over if it was 'for' their husband which I am sure is equally as demeaning. . .)
I like the fact that you can talk about the cultural aspects without having to focus only on the religion. . .later, when you're comfortable I'm sure you'll find a wonderful balance of both, since both are part of YOU.
Religion is something that people have very strong views about and it isn't always possible to write about it in a lighthearted and candid way. However, religion is something that is very personal to most people, and one of the more difficult aspects of an intercultural marriage. This might not have been the first question you asked yourself, but any gori girlfriend should have this in the back of her mind. And its not only you as a person, sometimes, it can affect the relation with your friends and family too. I know that when I mentioned the possibility of leaving my religion to my parents, they got very emotional and very angry. So, yeah, its a topic where emotions can run high but its something that might be useful to other people. Perhaps not the exact details and reasons of why you converted and all, but the reactions of your family and friends, how you dealt with those, how much time it took you to fully accept your new faith etc.
So, take your time, but do write about at least some aspects of how your new faith has affected your life as that should be something of wider interest. Thanks and keep writing!
I don't think talking about religion is a bad thing. How you choose to incorporate Islam in your life is your business, so does it matter what others think?
It seems that Islam is so tightly-woven into the package which is being Pakistani--back to the Borg Mentality--and I wish I could figure out how to ask my Pakistani about this. I don't know if he could answer it for me. It might be a silly question, as much so as "why is your skin browner than mine?" I think his grandma might better be able to answer. He says she remembers riding the train from India into the newly-formed Pakistan, hiding under the bodies so the killers would think they were dead, too, and not kill them. I wish we could interview the survivors on video--please do it if you can! I cannot,because they don't know I exist. Also, I wonder if (if we were to try this) they would ask: "Is this a very Gori thing, wanting to videotape my memories of horror?" Is it a very gori thing to even wonder?
I know you're not talking about it yet.. but when you do come around to talking.. I have a question. Did you have to convert to marry? I know it probably wasn't the case. For me I just realized one day that not converting wasn't going to help me to have a relationship with his family. Anyway.. I also converted in 2003 in August I believe.. married in Sept. Had a very sad and lonely first Ramadan with dh sneaking of to his family's home to eat while I was at home starving and waiting for him!!! Yes I am still bitter. :)
i greatly appreciate your blog. it is for me what you needed. and i'm glad it's not too much full of religious stuff. thanks :)
Hi GW,
It was this post that prompted me to delurk. ;)
I'm so thankful for this post because it mirrors a few concerns and thoughts I've had about my relationship with my Pakistano boyfriend of 2 years.
To be honest many things you've written about here have similarities or I've been through and learnt the same things.
I'll continue making my way through the blog before asking any questions though. :)
And here I am, an American gori, revert/convert to Islam...
And the ONLY muslimah in my township, city, county, tri-county region.
I wish to learn more, I also wish and pray for support in this situation.
This is in ADDITION to the relations and engagement to a future muslim desi husband. (conversion - fiance... not related; but a nice bonus!)
Racial and cultural differences are one thing, but when adding religious/spiritual variables to this exact mix = it pertains to the subject.
It's the reason why I'm happy to see this post. Jazakallah kheer, GoriWifeLife! ...keep posting
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