When we arrived in Karachi, we went straight to M's family's house. Because we were three people and five bags, we had to take a couple of cars, but luckily we'd been met at the airport by a lot of different family members, so we just shoved a suitcase in each of their cars and were able to ride home together.
M's mom was the only one who had ever met the baby. She had been in America when he was born and stayed for the first seven weeks of his life. She held him in her lap on the drive home and he was so tired from all the travel and interrupted sleep, that he just laid there quietly and looked at all the interesting things outside the window.
Which brings us to our first craziness of taking a baby to Pakistan - no car seats. My son had never in his life been in a moving automobile without being fully, properly strapped into a car seat. I tried my best before leaving to figure out some sort of solution to this. We couldn't take a car seat with us because he was traveling on our lap. I could not find any car seat for sale on any website that would ship to Pakistan, nor could I find any Pakistani company selling car seats. In facts, while we were there both times, I NEVER once saw a car seat for sale OR IN USE.
Another problem with the idea of a car seat is that not all cars in Pakistan even have seat belts. M's family's old car - a Volkswagen bug that they had all M's life until just recently - didn't have any seatbelts at all. Their new car only has seatbelts in the front seats, and none in the backseat. But all the information about car seats says NOT to put a car seat in the front seat. Some stuff I read online talked about people taking a car seat, but then resting it in the footwell in the backseat behind the driver. But who knows if this kind of thing is safer or ever MORE dangerous? I can imagine that footwell completely crumpling in an accident, and god forbid if there were an infant seat sideways there, because that's just the kind of impact the seat was designed to withstand.
The only solution I ever figured out was that we could pay for an extra piece of luggage to take our car seat with us, and then attach it somehow to the back seat using some kind of tie-downs. If it couldn't be secured to the backseat, we'd make sure there were no airbags in the car (unlikely what with the missing seatbelts and all) and secure it to the front seat.
This created a lot of problems. Everyone was against us, and ridiculed us and told us it was useless. That it would not be needed; driving in Pakistan was different, there were no real accidents like you see in America; that lots of people pile into the car and devoting the entire front seat to a baby when two full size adults could share it was foolish; that it would make our car a magnet for thieves. I wish I could say I didn't let all their protests bother me and that I was able to stick to my convictions...
A recurring theme of problems we faced was the lack of baby products. We'd been told that we didn't need to bring ANY food or diapers, as everything was available in Pakistan. That was not the case for us. The baby was eating exclusively jarred food, mostly from this line which has all kinds of variety of dishes; fruits, veggies, grains, casseroles and SOUPS, even! I was expecting that there would at least be a good variety of Gerber stuff - but all we could ever find even in the big American- and European-style supermarkets was a few differ jars of some Heinz baby food. No casseroles, no veggies at all, no grains. I could only find a few fruits, mostly in "pudding" combinations like Mango pudding, and dessert-y things like vanilla custard and stuff like that.
We had serious issues finding food for the baby to eat. I took a very hard line stance that he was not allowed to eat ANY uncooked fruits and vegetables, with tiny exceptions only for VERY thick skinned fruits like oranges and bananas that whose outsides were washed with soap before peeling and feeding. (That and only bottled water and oft-washed hands = a baby who never got travel-sick, thank God!)
Very quickly, my small reserves of travel jars of food ran out, and I didn't want the remaining three weeks of the trip to be a mango pudding and vanilla custard only diet, so I started making food for him. I boiled rice until it was almost disintegrated and then added diced bananas and other fruits and cooked for awhile until it was all mushy and bacteria free.
(Although I want to make clear that I don't think that food in Pakistan is disease-ridden; I just personally no-science-to-back-it-up think that people's digestive systems adapt to their environment. I always stay away from fruits & vegetables unless they're cooked, and I always drink bottled water from a reliable source where I open the cap myself. An incriminating example: M and I often leave food out overnight because we forget to put it in the fridge, and then we just cook it again the next day and eat it anyway. Maybe this would cause other people some digestive issues, but because we do it pretty often, we're just used to it. And we've been lucky, too, not to have cultivated anything major in our neglected leftovers overnight.)
Anyway, we made that rice pudding-ish thing for breakfast in bulk and he ate it most mornings. Other times I was able to spoon-feed him some imported breakfast cereals, but only when I found them in those big-box stores and the boxes looked like they were definitely from somewhere more American-baby-stomach friendly like Europe. Toward the end of the trip I also found some Gerber rice cereal.
For dinners, I usually made vegetable bhaji (mixed vegetable curry and daal (lentils) or just cut up whatever well-cooked dinner we were eating. The baby was really interested in finger foods then, and he'd anything in chunk form basically. We've always exposed him to fairly spicy foods, so the spice level wasn't a problem for him, either. (Besides, most people seem to lower the heat level when they're cooking for me anyway, even though I tell them time and again that I can take the heat!)
If I had to do it again, though, I think I'd just take enough food for the whole trip. Seriously - assuming I had an under 18-month or maybr 2-year old who's fairly inflexible in what they eat, I'd just take enough jars or powdered rice cereal for the whole trip. If I couldn't fit enough of everything, I'd definitely pack enough fruits & veggies for the entire trip so that the kid gets as many servings of those as he would have at home. Stave off the rickets, y'know...
Diapers were another thing that everyone said would be available the same as in America, and this was less of a problem, but there still was a bit of difference. Pampers were available in lots of places, even some of the smaller, local stores, but they were expensive! Even more expensive that in America, sometimes. Also, there have been SO MANY innovations in diapers. You would not believe what these things are capable of these day! The Pampers we found were good and had all the basics, but some of the better features were still missing (stretchy tabs, repostionable velcro-y fasteners rather than one-use tape-y ones, the softness of the material, etc.) BUT - when we were stuck in the house for 4 days, my father-in-law eventually had to venture out to get more diapers (there were two toddlers at the home at that time) and he couldn't go very far, so we were stuff with a Pakistani brand of disposable diaper. It was terrible. It was like a 1980s diaper that actually smelled BAD! So keep some reserves of the good kind of diapers.
Baby wipes were available, too, but they were a lot less nice than what you can buy in America. Seriously, have you smelled these Pampers Swipe & Go wipes? I'd wear that scent as a PERFUME!
And speaking about how the baby smells; our kid got DIRTY while we were there. Some homes in Pakistan and just like western homes, with interior kitchens and stairwells and full bathrooms - M's house is not like that. The kitchen is still detached from the house and there is not a full bathroom, just a small showerhead and a bucket for bathing. The dining table is outdoors, many of the rooms are open to the outdoors, and they live in a part of the city that's very dusty & dirty. Even though a maid comes every day to sweep, the bottoms of your feet will always be dirty if you walk barefoot. The kid needed a lot of baths! And baby soap & lotion was also hard to find (we'd forgotten the no-tears baby soap!) We borrowed some of his cousin's soap until we were able to track down some from another family member. No idea where they'd gotten it or if it's available widely.
As for sleeping, M's house is small, and our entire family was given a 8x6 room called Chota Kamra (or, the small room) to sleep in as a family. Believe me, this was a lot! Everyone else was sleeping in various combinations in the 2 common rooms! Our son, however, has his own bedroom at home and sleeps alone in a dark room in a crib. We needed a crib! Same thing with the car seat; no way to take a crib with us unless we wanted to pay almost $100 for an extra piece of luggage, no idea if a pack n' play was going to be available to buy for a reasonable price. Eventually, we found a close family friend who had a pack n' play whose kid "wouldn't sleep in it at all" and they lent it to us for the full month. We actually travel a lot and after returning from out trip I found two very lightweight travel crib options, so I'd probably go that route if you have a little bit of money to plink down, if you travel a lot, and if your kid is particularly attached to sleeping in a crib.
So to recap; bring some fruits & veggies (dehydrated, jarred, greens powder; whatever) and bring some wipes if you are partial to a nice-smelling, thicker baby wipe. Bring things like baby wash and lotion if you have a specific brand. Find a friend or family member with a travel crib - someone's bound to have one.
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I've really enjoyed reading these so far.
You didn't mention what you did milk-wise. Did you give him the Nestle milk or those other milks that come in the boxes?
The thing for me about the diapers were the size issues. The Pampers there don't come in number sizes, just S, M or L. I had bought medium only to realize they were too small. You are right about them being expensive though. I took Pampers wipes with me and remembered all the shampoos/lotions.
My daughter did get dirty too. She wanted to crawl around everywhere but with our house being so small it wasn't easy for her.
As they get older obviously the traveling gets much easier so hopefully your next trip will be a breeze, Inshallah. Do you have an idea for when you might go?
Well, yes. This is a third world country and trust me, I feel you when you say that you got a culture shock when you came to Pakistan. I spent the first 18 years of my life here but when I moved back after 10 years in the States, it was a culture shock to me as well.
Hope Pakistan and Pakistanis don't treat you that bad. You just have to get used to it =)
Yes Pakistani Pampers are manufactured in Pakistan. I feel bad that this is all that is available to people who use them there. They were awful. They leaked and the material felt like cheap tissue paper. However, I am not "allowed" to criticize these things to my in-laws, especially SILs because they get offended and thing I am berating all of Pakistan because I said that I noticed a quality discrepancy in the Pampers. But when we went with Baby for the second time, I had one suitcase packed exclusively with diapers and I just didn't tell anyone. I actually did find a whole range of good Gerber and Heinz bottled food there...actually better than what we have in the UAE. The thing about it is that it probably isn't sent to these Euro-American item shops by a supplier, it is picked up by the owner (or his cousin) to keep in stock, so you never know what will be available. I also hand cooked everything for my baby. One tip is that the Shan Instant Haleem Mix is great, cheap multi-grain/pulse baby food mix! Just boil with water, stir in rice if you want...
Hahaha that's funny, too about the spicy food. We have since day one given Baby D very mildly spiced food so she was used to it as well. She loves it.
And as for the car seats...that was a big deal in my mind to go without, but another one of those things where I seem neurotic to my ILs. We do w/out for the trips, but I insist that we still use them when they visit us here even though it means taking two cars everywhere. Driving in Pakistan isn't different...driving in Karachi IS different in many areas because unless it is 2 am there is bumber to bumber traffic so no one is going on high speeds. That didn't give me much solace, but it is one of those compromises we have to make, I guess.
My four kids have, masha'Allah, travelled the world since they were infants. But, I make it a point not to bring special food along. They eat whatever is considered baby food in the country that we're visiting. In India, it will be rice and vegetable porridge or plain rice and yogurt.
I do carry enough diapers for the whole journey and try to estimate wipes, but tend to clean the babies at the toilet with water, instead.
I've also made sure that my kids are used to food from their 'fatherland' so that they won't have any problems when they go there and have less variety. I think this has been appreciated in India, too, as family there has seen instances where parents of 8 year olds still pack a suitcase full of snack food so that their kids can 'survive' the visit.
One good thing about you and your family visiting Pakistan is that you learn that there are other ways of living than how you live in the US. People have different habits and prioritise different things. I think things will change, too, if you have more kids- we tend to be more strict with our firstborn.
Somehow, this post made me feel quite sad. I know I have been born and bred in a third world country, and I know we're not as advanced as the rest of the world, nor as well supplied... maybe the alternatives I have seen have made me see sense in them..and think that others can adapt too..
Maybe because i have grown up seeing babies being fed real soft rice, Nestle Cerelac, real soft basically anything.. Whatever the family would eat, they would make small soft bites out of that, and feed the baby..
Maybe because I have never seen any baby crawling around, exploring and never get dirty and dusty... Dunno..
*sigh*
Anyway.. Hope you have an easier time next time ...
I am from Europe and I think it is quite normal that kids get dirty.. I used to bake "sand cakes" in the sandpit and try them after wards. :-D That is how, I believe, you get immune to germs and bacteria. I also think it is exaggerate to carry all sorts of food over from the U.S, if the toddler is in Pak (s)he can eat what babies eat there... However, I do understand your concerns regarding the baby seat.
We have been to Pakistan twice since the Kid was born. We always rent a car making sure it has rear seatbelts. The first time the Kid was one, so we took the car seat in the plane (we had bought her a seat). The last time we checked the carseat in. Of course, we used the carseat all the time there.
I'm not judging or disparaging Pakistan or it's baby supplies. I know that most of the things we use to take care of babies are superfluous and not essential, that doesn't make it a damning statement to say I prefer jarred baby food or nice-smelling baby wipes. And if I'm alloted a certain amount of luggage to bring with me, why not bring the conveniences of home? I'm not living there, I'm only visited for a few short weeks! If you travelled from say, Karachi to SWAT where they might not have all the products you're used to, you might like to bring some nice-smelling shampoo with you, too, right? You could adapt if you had to, and even be perfectly happy, but as long as you're taking some things with you, why not throw in some shampoo? Would you expect the locals of SWAT to be saddened by your choice of luggage?
And of course babies get dirty crawling around - when did I say they don't - no matter where they are? My kid gets dirty in America too. But he gets dirtier, faster in M's dusty house in Karachi - HENCE the need for baby wash, preferably one of the no-tears formulas I'm used to using. I wrote "I finally found some baby wash" NOT "Pakistan is a dirty awful country full of dirty babies and no one cares enough to ever wash them"
Would you expect the locals of SWAT to be saddened by your choice of luggage?
I never said I'm saddened by your choice of luggage.
NOT "Pakistan is a dirty awful country full of dirty babies and no one cares enough to ever wash them"
I never said you did either.
Cheers
I just think you are a bit over-cautious.. that's it...
Mrs. H - No definite plans yet; waiting to hear about a wedding date for a family member - although it looks like it will be my first visit during the (next) summer.
Yawar - Absolutely not - Pakistan and Pakistanis have always treated me really, really great!
Anonymous - I'm sure you're right, but I'm fine with my amount of caution. Of course, you must realize that most people here in American think I'm being overtly, crazily dangerous just taking my kid there, let alone what he eats or whatever. We all have to make our own way, right!
haahahaha, I have been reading your blog since 10 am, and its 3 48 pm now!... its so cool... I have a Malay friend, who married a Paki and I find her account of us and our folks hilarious ... and yes, often people tend to be vicious, and mean and be too defensive but you just need to take that with a pinch of salt.. M and his family must be proud of having you as a part of their family.
and I sort of don't understand all this though *scratches head*... The babies in my family eat packaged food as well as home made...Our mom was prowly the most finicky mom ever!...Even the pots and pans, she used to make our food would be sterlized first... She used to boil our nappies and dry them in direct sunlight with a net on top, so no mosquitoes or flies sat on them... but I remember the no-tears soap and shampoo from my childhood even ... and i am 25 now.. thats weird, i think you didnt look in the right place... Also all the kids in my family have baby seats ... otherwise its a hassle to travel with the kids,no?.. as far as the dirt is concerned, I have yet to meet kids that age who can stay clean for long hours ...
i think its okay for you to fix some home made stuff, and give him some fruit... what about Mangoes, you cant do this to him!..*groan*... just be very very vary of the water... in big cities like Karachi, it can be Godawful
but good luck for your trips and all ... and the baby :)
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