Friday, January 16, 2009

Shopping. Or: "Why does this cost three times as much just because I'm white?"

Back before I knew much about desi culture, I had an interesting exchange with one of M's friends. He was talking about how he hated shopping in America, and using Coke to explain why. He said that he hated the fact that a 12-pack of Coke could cost one thing at Wal-Mart, and then be 2x as much at a nicer grocery store. He wondered how the price of something so basic can change so much, and he said that in Pakistan, a coke is 15 rupees no matter where you buy it, and he thought that was fairer and less difficult. He hated that you have to 'bargain shop' to find the best prices.

But in Pakistan, I've found that the only things that have those kind of fixed, accurate pricing are the cheapest, smallest of items. Most prices of other things are seemingly not determined by any intrinsic value of the thing itself, but rather by the shopper. Lots of times, the price of an item is determined by how much the shopkeeper thinks YOU can pay

Or more likely, double what the shopkeeper thinks you can pay. You see, in Pakistan, almost all shopping is done with lengthy bargaining sessions. Shopkeepers ask for some crazy amount of money, swear up and down that that's the going rate these days - their kids have to eat - times have been tough these days! You counteroffer something equally crazy on the other end - probably half what you'd actually like to pay. The shopkeeper gets somehow personally offended by your lowball offer - why don't you just take food out of his children's mouths already! Are you even here to buy, or are you just screwing around? Why are you wasting his time? Eventually the offers you and the shopkeeper throw at each other will meet somewhere in the middle, and the shopkeeper will assure you he's selling you whatever item at a loss, just to please you (or get you out of his shop, or just because you're such a loyal customer....) This kind of bargaining accompanies almost almost EVERYthing you buy in Pakistan except food, gas, "and maybe the newspaper" says M. 

Shopping in Pakistan is not a fun experience for me. First, because of this bargaining. In America, there is almost no bargaining for anything. Sometimes - rarely, though - for certain really HIGH price items, like cars and large home appliances. But even then, a lot of places that sell those items will advertise their "haggle-free" pricing so you know they don't engage in bargaining. It's just not a part of American shopping - and it's becoming even less common every day. Prices in America are fixed, although different stores have sales or have lower prices to entice you to shop there. So the idea that I have to haggle is foreign to me. And then the Pakistani haggling is not fun to be a part of either. They talk so fast I sometimes get lost, and sometimes we've even had to walk away from stuff I really wanted just because the haggling wasn't going well. 

I usually shop with one of M's cousins, Appi or his aunt, because they're know to be good hagglers. My mother in law is a backup option, but she's not as good. They tell me not to say a word so that we can get a better deal. The idea behind that is that the shopkeeper is trying to get as much from us as he can, and if he seems we're 'foreigners' he'll overcharge us (because we've come all the way from America, we must be rich. Because all Americans are filthy rich, didn't you know?)

So I have to shut up and try to look as Pathan as possible. (Pathans are an ethnic group in Pakistan that have lighter skin and hair.) Then M and Appi haggled for ages and ages while I sit on a bench and look longingly at whatever item - usually clothes - that I want. Sometimes Appi decides the price isn't good enough and we have to walk away - even if I was FINE with the price! I really wanted that outfit!!!

4 comments:

luckyfatima said...

In Dubai there are both Western style fixed price malls and shops, as well as traditional bazaar shopping areas.

I presume that when the shop keepers see Westerners (and also sometimes overseas Pakistanis back on vacation), they see dollar signs, and rightly so, but it sucks to get ripped off, so I still don't like it.

M.J. said...

I imagine it'd be pretty interesting to watch at times, especially if you didn't understand the language and their body language was really dramatic. I see haggling a lot at the farmers markets here, but never really participate as it makes me feel uncomfortable. My SIL is pathan (or pastun, dont know if these are the same?) and people mistake her for my sister here in the US bc of her pale skin and blue eyes.

Jessica said...

I've had almost the exact same experience in China, where I live (this is my first time visiting your blog and I'm just reading back through some of the older posts). I hate bargaining because as a Westerner over here you know that most places are going to automatically going to start from a higher price and they're not going to want to come down. I just don't really enjoy haggling with people so I usually give in way before I should. My husband is ruthless on the other hand, and will walk away over a difference of a couple of dollars.

Once a friend and I were browsing in a shop selling jade jewellry and my friend randomly asked about a small jade guanyin (the Buddha of compassion) and the shopkeeper told him it was 3000RMB, which was about $400. Ridiculously expensive, considering the jade wasn't even all that great. We just laughed and made to leave the store, and the shopkeeper called after us, "well how much would you give?" And my friend, totally joking, says "50!" The shopkeeper calls back, "make it 75 and you've got a deal!" My friend actually bought it at that point, just, I think, because the whole 3000 to 75 thing would make a good conversation piece later on.

karen said...

ahhhh! the more i read, the more i relate and breathe some sigh of relief. thank you for this blog! truly.
i guess we're in almost the same situation. so many details are the same...i'm thankful for the internet!